Showing posts with label Tigers. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Tigers. Show all posts

Tuesday, December 3, 2013

Fister Traded, Nathan Added


Well this has been a busy two days for Los Tigres.

Yesterday, we were shocked with the Doug Fister trade to the Nationals for utility man Steve Lombardozzi, Robbie Ray and Ian Krol.

Not exactly the return Tiger fans wished for when the news broke Fister was traded.
Quite frankly, I don't blame them.  We got a switch hitting Don Kelly, (wannabe cuz no one can be Don Kelly,) a minor league starter and a bullpen guy.

Ian Krol will probably have the most immediate impact player.  Lombardozzi will make the team, but probably as a Ramon Santiago replacement.  Or even, as inconceivable as this may seem, replace Don Kelly, who just signed a 1-yr $1 mil deal hours before the trade.

Robbie Ray isn't there yet, so he'll probably have a year starting in Toledo.

The arms are solid arms with potential, both Ray and Krol are 22 years-old.

But as Dombrowski said after the trade, "we're not done."

Today it was announced the Tigers have agreed in principal to a deal with free agent closer Joe Nathan.
The deal is reportedly worth $20 million over two years.
Nathan, 39, posted 43 saves in 46 opportunities, a solid era of 1.39 ERA and a .90 WHIP

I don't need to tell you guys that Nathan has been a Tiger killer throughout his big league career, but I will anyways... Because I care.

Nathan is a perfect 36-for-36 in save opportunities against Detroit with an ERA of 1.44 and 10 strikeouts per nine innings pitched.
So if ya can't beat em, get him to join your team.

In other baseball news, my coveted free agent Carlos Beltran is reportedly close to signing with KC, so once again I hope the plan isn't for Detroit to sign Shin-Soo Choo.
And no, I don't want him because of that reason that is in your head.  I don't want him because he hits about as well as I do against lefties, with just as many strikeouts.  He's going to cost too much money for a guy that is so easy to get out in the playoffs.
I say playoffs because that's when managers carry an extra pitcher.  He would never face a righty in a late-game situation in the postseason.

But I digress.  Yes, I understand the hate towards the Fister trade.  In fact I'm on your side.  A guy with as much on-paper value as Fister, the return should have been much higher.  Teams have gotten more for rent-a-players than we got for giving up a guy that has two-years of club control left.

But, keep the faith in Dombrowsi.  Remember the Granderson deal?  Looked bad to us fans then, maybe he struck gold again.

Friday, December 14, 2012

Tigers Resign Sanchez, 5-yrs, $80 mil


Photo credit: mlive.com
So the Tigers finally did what I've been calling for all offseason and dipped into the well and spent the big bucks.  Only one problem... It wasn't spent very wisely.  But that's just my in my humble, unintelligent, mildly-uninformed, certainly-not-professional opinion.

Anibal Sanchez has resigned with the Tigers for 5 years, $80 million total, that's roughly $16 mil per year.  This is even higher than I figured he would get on the open market (I guestimated $60-70 mil, Cubs apparently offered $75 mil)

Sanchez is a pretty talented pitcher.  He's got solid stuff and he's not that old.  But I have a few issues with this deal...

  1. His numbers aren't $16 mil-per good.  He's got a 48-51 career record with a 3.75 ERA and 733 strikeouts in 869 innings over seven seasons.  Okay... Good even, but not great.  He went 4-6 with a 3.74 ERA with the Tigers.  ERA is solid.  What impressed me is the 1.77 ERA in the postseason.  He's got good stuff, it's not like we spent $80 mil on a bust, but I don't think he's shown nearly enough consistency to earn that kind of cash
  2. Career NL pitcher.  All those numbers, except with the Tigers, are against the notoriously worse hitting National League.  Yes, we have a sample size that indicates he could hold his own against AL teams, but I wasn't $80 mil worth sold on it.  5 years is a long time, and in seven years he's put up solid numbers from a crap team, but it was also in a crap league.  It's a big risk
  3. Long-Term, big money for a fourth starter.  I love bolstering a starting rotation as much as the next guy, in fact when I learned the Tigers were after Shields I nearly did a backflip for excitement, (Go ahead, debate me on whether he's worth the prospects we would have lost, I'll repeat my stance on prospects all day.) But here's my issue.  James Shields would have cost prospects yes, but his contract is A) Cheaper B)Riddled with options to get out of it f it doesn't work C) Not committed too long term.  Anibal is a Tiger for five years.  And his contracts bigger than the one JV signed three years ago, which brings me to my next point
  4. Sanchez makes more than Verlander.  We have set a precedent that we will not be able to afford. Kiss Mad Max, or Twisted Fister, or even Verlander good-bye when it comes payday time.  Maybe one of them was going have to leave regardless, or want to leave, but just imagine the amount of money it's going to keep Verlander long term.  If Sanchez gets $16 mil per, what's JV worth?


If I were running the team, which God knows I am certainly not qualified and I am just a ranting raving fan who is as illinformed as everyone else that's not a GM, scout, owner, etc, I would have gone after a shorter-term option.  Well before signing a starter, I would have gotten a closer, but after that, I would have looked at the guys like Ryan Dempster, Edwin Jackson, Scott Baker, Dan Haren would have definitely been worth the one-year flyer in my book.

However, I will be the first to admit, I believe Sanchez is better pitcher than all of them.  So this signing does fit the win now motif.  And since I'm always a ray of positive energy, you guys know that :)  I shall end the negativity and share with you all what I do like about the deal.

  1. Win now, win often.  Ilitch wants it, I want it, you want it, Detroit wants it.  Go get the best available (that doesn't hamper the futures of stars JV and Miggy) and bring in a ring.  Make it happen
  2. Opens window on Porcello/Smyly trade.  Stop it.  Before you even say it, stop it.  One of them has to be traded now.  We are a win now team.  One can be our 5th starter, and the other can go get us a closer or a new shortstop.  Porcello has been around long enough to know that this is as good as he's gonna get.  People seem to think that a low age number just means they're going to keep magically getting better and better, drastically better.  It happens in guys, usually with guys that haven't been around the majors as long as Ricky P.  He hasn't gotten worse, hasn't gotten much better.  It's time to trade him.  We missed our chances at getting Halladay because we were buying what Ricky P was selling (See why I hate people who value potential over talent now?  Will Ricky P ever be Roy? Hell no.)  So why not hook up with the Pirates, who have a closer they want to move and a rotation that needs another starter.  It was a match made in heaven.
  3. Best rotation in the AL, possibly majors.  Any rotation with Verlander will always be in contention.  But with four guys with as good as stuff as our four have, it's no doubt who will be feared when the playoffs roll around.

So that ended up being a lot longer than I wanted to be.  But I bullet pointed the important stuff :)  Bottom line, I don't think Sanchez is $80 mil good.  I know when we win the World Series, everyone (in particular one person, you know who you are) will be bringing this up, calling me stupid.  But when Verlander walks and goes to the Yankees, we all lose in the end.

Good pitcher, Ilitch win-now signing, but is it a wise commitment?  We'll see.

For some more positivity and a blogger much more reputable then me cuz he kinda also is a sports radio host, here's some linkage to a guy I enjoy listening to, Jeff Riger

Saturday, November 17, 2012

Tori Hunter First Move of (Hopefully) Big Offseason


Photo Credit: SI.com

It was a match made in heaven.  Torii wants a ring, Mr. I wants a ring.  Hunter admitted that Detroit was the team he wanted to play for above any other team, and he knew that before last season was even over.  Detroit needed a guy that could hit lefties, hit #2, and play great defense.

Hunter needed Detroit, and Detroit needed Hunter.

There isn't a negative thing to say about this deal.  Hunter, 37, is at the point in his career where all that's left to do is win a ring.  He's hungry, and this team needs hungry guys like Torii.  The two-year, $26 million ($13 mil per) is a very fair deal for a player like Hunter, and it doesn't hamper our finances. Having him for two years gives Nick Castellanos more time to develop as an outfielder, it's a perfect situation for everyone.

What's gerat about Hunter is that he's a clubhouse guy.  Everyone loves him.  He can be the leader and voice that this team was lacking.  Dotel said this team liked fire and hunger; Hunter will bring that.

I have nothing negative to say about the deal.  But since you all know I love to play devil's advocate, this is the closest I can come to a complaint.

I wanted bigger.

There are a plethora of talented outfielders on the market, and Hunter wasn't on the top of my lists of wants.  B.J. Upton is young, fast and on the market.  I am absolutely in love with Melky Cabrera.  Thought he would be available for cheap because of his positive steroid test and he was (signed two-year $16 mil with Toronto.)

The pipe dream was Josh Hamilton because I am absolutely in love with him.  But I didn't want him for what he was asking for, which was seven years and big money.  He's 31 and giving him big money for long-term would probably cost us Verlander or Miggy in the future, especially with Mr. I unfortunately near death.

But the guy that was number one on my list was Justin Upton.  25 years old and already locked into a multi-year deal, dealing for him would be nothing but upside.  I would have given up any set of prospects for him.  Two reasons why:
1) When you're a winning team, prospects are trade bait.  Losing teams collect prospects, teams trying to win now trade them.  I'm playing for now.
2) Upton is a young, five-tool player that fits exactly what we need from a new outfielder and then some.  He brings defense, speed, power, average, he brings it all.  And he's only 25.  It would have been a match made in heaven.

But it's hard to argue against Torii Hunter.  The move makes so much sense and the Tigers gave up nothing for him except money.  They get to keep those prospects, and bring in a hungry veteran who wants to be here and wants to win.

Hopefully this is only the start of a much bigger offseason.  Still need a closer (Soriano, Soria, Broxton available and on my list.)  More has to be coming, and hopefully we'll be back in the World Series, this time doing the sweeping.